Talk:Holy Island, Firth of Clyde

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Ponies, sheep and Goats. I just found an article with the names of varieties of Sheep Goat and Ponies on Holy Isle. All rather special. While there are no entries for Soay sheep or Eriskay ponies yet there are entries for Soay and Eriskay, and they have dead links to the sheep and ponies. So I have put deadlinks in too. Is that right? At the moment it would be more helpful to put Eriskay ponies but not so good in the long term. I'm not going to write the article on Eriskay pony, I've just met them on Holy Isle. What can I say? "They were very nice, if a bit timid". As for Soay sheep [[1]] some one please make a start. Nothing on Sanann goats so left in goat.

By the way the article also mentions seals, butterflies, cormorants and oystercatchers, and yes they were all there, but not quite as notable. I have heard a rumour there is a temporate coral reef in Lamlash bay which is far more interesting.

By the way yes 130.88.96.66 was me. (Logged in on one Mozilla tab but not the other. Strange)

Billlion 23:37, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with red links, providing one can have a resonable expectation that someone will one day write an article for said thing. There's pretty extensive coverage of breeds of cats and dogs, and I think for races of bee, but not so much for other animals. A brief google suggests that both eriskay ponies and soay sheep are indeed breeds in their own right, so I think the red links are fine. But remember that you can start an article without having to finish it - it's quite reasonable just to write a two sentence stub with an external link or two (google shall provide). Of course one reasonably would add links to them in pony and sheep respectively, and before you know it you've been sucked off into sheepland. There appears to be an artificial reef at Lamlash, btw [2] - heck, that page alone (reefballs!) would make a great wikipedia subject. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:49, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Requested move 26 October 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Consensus to call this "Holy Island" but no consensus to change the "Firth of Clyde" qualifier, so I have moved it to "Holy Island, Firth of Clyde" (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Isle, Firth of Clyde → Holy Island, Scotland – Per WP:WIAN "Holy Island" is the name of the island per the Ordnance Survey, Encyclopædia Britannica, A-Z, Collins Britain, Gazetteer for Scotland and the Scottish islands book. Only Google Maps, the official website and VisitScotland among common sources (see User:Crouch, Swale/Island names/Table) use "Holy Isle". Thus being consistent with the OS in other cases. I have proposed using "Scotland" its unique in Scotland but I'm fine with retaining the current qualifier, thus moving to Holy Island, Firth of Clyde or using the council area, thus Holy Island, North Ayrshire. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. OhKayeSierra (talk) 03:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Certainly shouldn't be Holy Island, Scotland, given the existence of the other one that could also be translated as "Holy Island". -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:14, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see evidence that "Holy Island" (capitalized) is used for Eileach an Naoimh, then again we don't usually allow partial disambiguation and there's a risk here, therefore it might be best to stick with the current qualifier and use Holy Island, Firth of Clyde. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:16, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Island and isle are essentially the same word, so I think it's best to err on the side of caution. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:32, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
→Holy Island, Firth of Clyde as I think this is the most conservative approach. I think the main matter here is to ensure that people using 'Holy Isle' and 'Holy Island' end up at the same place as the survey of uses presented in the proposal shows that people could be looking for either one ... which actually suggests a non-move alternative of creating a redirect from Holy Island, Firth of Clyde to Holy Isle, Firth of Clyde. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:00, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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