Talk:Miele

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Can we get a authoritative answer on how this company's name should be pronounced? -Speedeep 15:37, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Check out AT&T natural voice (German). Sounds like 'Mee-luh'. Shawnc 20:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say more like ' Mee-leh ' Bilky asko 13:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the suggested pronouncation in the article as similar to Sheila is wrong. I would agree more with Shawncl (above) that it is more of a Mee-luh sound where the ending is to be prounced as the French 'le'. I would strongly suggest to romove the incorrect pronouncation from the current article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.156.134 (talk) 02:09, 20 April 2010 (UTC) Why delete it ???.[reply]

I see there is other corporation stubs and corporation articles in Wikipedia. So i delete the {{deletion}} message. Expand the article, but don´t delete it. --Mac 07:29, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sure. Take the adverts out, though, I think. Mucky Duck 09:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is pronounced similar to the name "Sheila" or "meal-ah", by User: JerZee. The article in regards to Miele has been taken from the book "100 Years of Miele" 1899-1999 A chronicle of 100 years of the company. To expand in its entirety would be very extensive, and in no way is this meant as an advertisement, but as insight as to how the company grew to its current status from the initial partnership of founders Miele and Zinkann. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JerZee (talk • contribs) 2006-12-05 13:20:59

Amazon knows of no such book. Please cite the book in the article using {{cite book}}, filling in all of the necessary details. Uncle G 14:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its DEFINITLY NOT MEE-luh, and it does NOT rhyme with "Sheila". The first syllable is correct, but there is way to much emphasis on the last one! Please remove the comparation.

I have no idea right now, which english word sounds similar (maybe there is one, but I´m german, sorry). Hear the correct way here, the first word: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut34Nuq3Q6w. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.129.55.6 (talk) 20:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's correct says a German speeking Swiss--Chief tin cloud (talk) 10:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Slogan

Not seeing any references I would translate immer besser in the sense of continous betterment. Both meanings are used in the German language, and a reference would be needed to show which meaning Miele is using. Agathoclea 00:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As stated previously this comes from the book Published by the corporation Copyright 1999 Miele & Cie GmbH & Co., Carl-Miele-Str. 29, 33332 Gutersloh, Germany. Printing: Druckerei und Verlag Hermann Bosmann GmbH. '100 years of Miele' logo: Henrion, Ludlow & Schmidt, London. I doubt it can be found on Amazon. I suggest a call to Miele in Princeton, NJ (USA) to verify the existence of such a book, and not use Amazon as a sole source of reference. Ask for the Director of Marketing, who should be able to back up the statements as referenced above, the history of the company, and the book that is being referred to. To those who are concerned about the authenticity on this information can ask to have a published copy sent to them for verification.

The company was founded in 1899 and to publish the history of the company as printed in this forum, can not be done in a timely manner, especially with the time I have allotted to this format. It can be added to in small increments as time allows.

I am an employee of Miele USA. If you do not wish for me to expound the reference to Miele in Wikipedia, than I will no longer continue to add references to this article as my time is to valuable to argue against nonsense with facts that I have before me. I am only trying to add to the database of Wikipedia, if that is not possible than I am done adding informative facts to the Definition of Miele.

This reference is not intended to be a sales article but rather an informative history of Miele.

The German words "Immer Besser" translates to English as Forever Better.—Preceding unsigned comment added by JerZee (talk • contribs) 2006-12-07 17:00:59

I have added recent information to the Miele definition. I will add more info as time allows, to give more insight to the Miele brands. Please feel free to edit, however the added info is accurate as it is written.—Preceding unsigned comment added by JerZee (talk • contribs) 2007-02-12 15:00

I have edited and updated Miele info. The US corporate telephone is 1.800.843.7231 for verification and any questions can be asked at the Marketing and Advertising Department. (JerZee)

As we have already seen, the slogan "immer besser" is ambigous in maybe 3 or more ways.

"immer besser" translates into

# "always better" in the meaning of "Miele is always better than other brands"

# "always better" in the meaning of "getting always better" by continuos improvement

# "forever better" (meaning clear)

# ...

I guess, this ambiguity is on purpose, and we should leave it that way. Dispatcher7007 (talk) 08:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Motorcycles

Miele also built motorcycles and auxiliary motors for bicycles before WW2. --Chief tin cloud (talk) 10:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution

Do you think it is worth including a section on distribution? Sometimes these companies have very strange set-ups from country to country. In Australia, for example, they don't sell online and only distributed through Winning Appliances for a long time. M0z (talk) 22:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revenue

The Infobox says Miele obtains ~3 million € in revenues annually, but the German version has 'billion' (Milliarde (Mrd.) on the short German scale). I suppose German Wikipedia is right here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.192.40.72 (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the sales is roughly 3 billion and we should use the correct English decimal separator (dot), even if the German source might use the comma. I corrected it just now.--Kwally (talk) 12:53, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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History, in WW2

The war period deserves its own paragraph. Currently: >During World War II, Miele produced torpedoes, mines, and grenades for the German war effort, using slave labor. It is estimated that by 1944, 95% of the company's revenue was derived from producing and selling armaments.

^ Müller, Anja (2023-11-24). "Handelsblatt". www.handelsblatt.com.

^ Schneider-Braunberger, Andrea H. (2023). Miele im Nationalsozialismus: ein Familienunternehmen in der Rüstungs- und Kriegswirtschaft (1. Auflage ed.). München: Siedler. ISBN 978-3-8275-0188-2.

The Schneider-Braunberger book also treats the history of the company before Nazi times.-Yohananw (talk) 13:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]