Talk:List of current members of the King's Privy Council for Canada

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How can Conrad Black remain a member of the Privy Council of Canada after her renounced his canadian citizenship ? User:Dowew May 18th 2005

Well, the Duke of Edinburgh was never a Canadian citizen, so that might set the precedent that there's no actual citizenship requirement for the Council, and I doubt there's any easy way (if any) to remove someone from the Council once appointed. Ddye 16:56, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if a private member's bill could do it ? Dowew 04:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No; Privy Councillors in Canada can only be removed from the Privy Council through a direct order of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, on the advice of the Prime Minister of Canada. FiveParadox 09:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this list supposed to include only living PCs, or dead ones too?

Resignation

Why did Joseph Mario Jacques Olivier resign from the Privy Council when he ran for Mayor of Longuile ? Does anyone know ? Dowew 04:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jim/John Abbott

In the interest of avoiding an edit war, I will bring this up here before making changes. The list on the Privy Council website is current members only and John Abbott is listed on it. Also the Parliament of Canada website lists current MP Jim Abbott as "The Honourable". I think it refers to the same person who is the Jim Abbott it was originally listed as. Could John be his real name? Any input? Sethpt 20:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

His real name is James. I noticed the list you are referring to, and believe it is an error. On at least two other lists from the Parliament website, including the list MPs who are Privy Councillors, he is not listed. Further, his own website, which appears to have been updated repeatedly in the last week, makes no reference to him being a Privy Councillor. Finally, in Hansard, he is referred to as "Mr. Jim Abbot" as opposed to the "Hon. Jim Abbot" which would be the case if he were a Privy Councillor (see Hansard of Oct. 17 -- two days following the alleged appointment, under Statements by Members). I believe all of this is sufficient evidence that Jim Abbott, MP, is not John Abbott, recent appointee to the Privy Council. PoliSciMaster 21:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I would have to agree with you on that. But then who is John Abbott, recent appointee to the Privy Council? I do not think it is former Prime Minister John Abbott because Sir John Joseph Caldwell Abbott is listed alongside John Abbott on Historical Privy Council members. And this John Abbott is listed as current member, when former PM Abbott would not be current member. Wouldn't Sir Abbott have been appointed when he was PM, anyway? So who is this John Abbott? Sethpt 02:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't know. My first thought was that he might be a new appointee to the Security Intelligence Review Committee, whose members must be Privy Councillors, but I can find no information supporting that. It definitely would not be former PM Sir John Abbott, as the Queen's Privy Council for Canada did not exist at that time. I have made some inquiries, and will communicate whatever I learn here.PoliSciMaster 06:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear I was incorrect. I have found a press release confirming Jim Abbott, M.P.'s appointment, and Hansard now reflects that.PoliSciMaster 03:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Member, Leader of Opposition

Roméo Leblanc is dead, so I removed his name. Regarding Leaders of Opposition, if Jack Layton is there, why not Michael Ignatieff and Gilles Duceppe? Their parties surely have more members than the NDP. Lastly, to avoid duplication, all former Leaders of the Opposition that managed to be Premier Minister are removed. On a second thought, a cleanup is required to remove all duplications. Jusfiq (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because neither Ignatieff nor Duceppe have been sworn to the Queen's Privy Council. It is not something that comes automatically just for being a party leader.PoliSciMaster (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the case (removing Prime Ministers who were formerly leaders of the opposition) from duplication on the list, then Stephen Harper should be removed from the list of members of the opposition who are members of the Privy Council...Or am I getting this wrong? Luckystrikes (talk) 19:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current and former Chief Government Whips

Now that Jay Hill is now a former Chief Government Whip, would it be appropriate to change the name of the heading? As O'Connor was originally Minister of National Defence, he is excluded. Given that Karen Redman was sworn in on 2004-07-20 on occasion of becoming Chief Government Whip under Martin, would it be appropriate to list her and others under a renamed heading? Although Mauril Bélanger is presently listed as a Martin Cabinet Minister appointee, he was also sworn in as a Minister of State upon becoming Chief Government Whip (and Deputy House Leader), and thus also belongs under a renamed heading. Compared to Chrétien Chief Government Whips (Kilger, Catterall), Bélanger as Whip appointed Privy Councillor was a Martin tradition that Harper continued in his appointment of Hill. Would noting this fact in the current introductory block would be helpful in contrasting the Martin parliamentary secretary remark? Cmslothouber (talk) 13:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose that List of longest-serving current Privy Counsellors of Canada be merged into this list. I think the longest serving list is somewhat superfluous on it own, and can simply be a subsection of this list. Milton Chan (talk) 17:32, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]