Talk:List of songs recorded by Frank Sinatra

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singing in the rain

Did frank ever sang this song ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.148.15.197 (talk) 17:52, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ummm, Marcus2, how about discussing things before you make major changes? There are other people interested in this topic as well.

Lists on Wikipedia are useful if they are either complete or they are selective. This one is neither. Or are you planning to research all 800+ songs sung by Sinatra in his career and create articles for each of them? (See: Wikipedia:Make only links relevant to the context) There are a number of quite exhaustive discographys of Sinatra on the web; this is the kind of work we don't need to duplicate here. -- Viajero 12:56, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Very useful

Ummm... Viajero?

this kind of page is very useful. Have you ever tried to edit 500 + songs in iTunes without such a list? When 90% of all songs are labeled as "2005" or whatever such year the compilation was released? Having to go through the entire discography, one album at a time, would be awful. I found this Frank Sinatra list because I was looking for just such a list. Praying for the damn thing, actually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.3.137.73 (talk) 16:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, kind person. May the fools of itunes find enlightenment. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way you can duplicate this list in chronological order? signed fattyjoe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fattyjoe (talk • contribs) 14:24, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. It appears the "List of songs recorded by" is dominant. --BDD (talk) 18:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

List of Frank Sinatra songs → List of songs recorded by Frank Sinatra – The lead of the article says, The column Year lists the year in which the song was recorded....,' and there is no logical reason why the article title should not reflect precisely what is contained in the article. To revert unnecessary move..Richhoncho (talk) 09:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I quite agree Gareth E Kegg (talk) 12:00, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a query related to this move at Talk:List of Harry Connick, Jr. songs. These moves really should have been proposed together as a multimove. — AjaxSmack 21:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. I think you're splitting hairs. There is no discernable difference between a "Frank Sinatra song" and a "Song recorded by Frank Sinatra." Plus, the current title format mirrors other such song lists (e.g. List of The Beatles songs and List of Pink Floyd songs). If you wish, you can create a new column for "date of release" as well, or even have it replace the "date recorded" column completely. Father McKenzie (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment : WP Policy say that article names should follow WP:NDESC and WP:PRECISION. The present title does NOT meet the criteria of these two policies, being neither descriptive nor precise.--Richhoncho (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:NDESC has no application here. There's nothing non-neutral or judgmental about either title. WP:PRECISION could apply to this case had the original title been something like "Sinatra songs." The title as it stands now meets WP:PRECISION since it clearly indicates whose songs are being listed without ambiguity. "List of [Artist] songs" can be reasonably and unambiguously interpreted as a complete, general list of songs recorded by an artist during their career.Father McKenzie (talk) 19:59, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"List of [artist] songs" needs to be "interpreted" as you confirm above (written by? performed by? released by? recorded by?). I cannot understand your objection to defining the subject matter. If it is so clear to you that it means "recorded," why can't we specify recorded? I cannot fathom anybody's objection to clarity in an encyclopedia.--Richhoncho (talk) 10:19, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information

Since this and other nominations for renaming there has also been a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs#Naming_conventions_for_list_articles where there is a consensus that the convention should be List of songs recorded by [artist]. 3 other RM nominations have already been resolved as List of songs recorded by Jennifer Lopez, List of songs recorded by Perry Como and List of songs recorded by Rihanna and the greater majority of articles now use this format. This RM discussion should now be closed as move to proposed title. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Lush life - needs comment if referring to recorded fragment, or is to be deleted

One or two years ago, I stumbled upon a story about Sinatra trying to record Lush life. It says he made three attempts and then gave up. And there was a mp3 version of the original session (protocol?) tape's apparently decisive few minutes. Obviously — though the interpretation seemingly would have become as fine as it could be expected — he felt he had to concentrate too much on the technical challenges, thus didn't feel free enough to safely focus mainly on the song as a story to be told, and that in his one-take-only manner of ambition for effortlessly achieving instant perfection (rarely allowing more tries). Sinatra interrupts (the orchestra) three times (getting no further than to "then you came along"), amost sighs when he remarks there are "tough key changes", eventually says finishing this well would (for both musicians and sound engineers) mean they'd all have to stay in the studio "for about a year or so", and quits.

So, this entry either needs a comment saying there is only this fragment and no complete recording, officially or not, or it is to be deleted - unless year, medium and a reliable source to confirm both are being named. - 212.17.89.244 (talk) 01:53, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

same old song and dance - already 1951?

Hi, I just quoted the entry regarding same old song and dance - to find, shortly after telling others it had been released in 1958 (and eleminating the typo from Van Heusen's name plus putting it into linking brackets), that on discogs they claim it had already been a 1951 Capitol single: http://www.discogs.com/Frank-Sinatra-The-Same-Old-Song-And-Dance/release/7183882 Anyone able to clarify? 194.145.176.133 (talk) 23:13, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Lillie Bolero

There's a Sinatra song which is called "Lillie Bolero" on a CD I own (this one https://www.discogs.com/Frank-Sinatra-A-Good-Man-Is-Hard-To-Find-Volume-1/release/8853013 on this page it is spelled without the first E, but the E does appear on my CD) but I can't find information on it. It doesn't seem to be listed here. Is it with a different title ?

You can find the song with the names "Laroo, Laroo, Lilli Bolero" and "Laru, Laru, Lilli Bolero" on internet (youtube or lyrics websites). (Note that the song has nothing to do with "Lilly Belle") Elfast (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And Then You Kissed Me

music by jule styne (not jimmy van heusen). there's another very useful wiki page with more detailed information about these early sinatra recordings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra_in_Hollywood_1940%E2%80%931964 147.78.237.119 (talk) 07:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anything (1940 Song)

P Napoleon is Phil Napoleon songwriter together with Eddie De Lange. Frank Signorelli is the composer, the recording is from 9/9/1940 New York, New York. Studio 2. see: 147.78.237.119 (talk) 08:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see: https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/matrix/detail/200046603/BS-055961-Anything 147.78.237.119 (talk) 08:13, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bye Bye Baby

recorded on 10 july 1949; according to a youtube lemma; which may stem from the booklet of the 1995 cd box: The Best Of The Columbia Years 1943-1952. 147.78.237.119 (talk) 08:44, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Take A Chance

there seems to be some confusion about he songwriters. This wiki page states david raskin as the composer of the song but archives.org has prints of the record label and states that ruby rasking as (co)composer. ruby is the younger brother of david; both brothers worked together and composed film scores. 147.78.237.119 (talk) 15:47, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]