Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arab dictatorships
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 02:19, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
I don't see how this can ever become NPOV. --Euniana/Talk/Blog 19:31, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Controversy is no reason to delete pages. If people object, there can be a section of criticism or alternative points of view. Keep. Just cut down on POV parts. Wikipedia abounds in double standards. Why is "Arab dictatorships" taboo, but POV titles like History of United States Imperialism get a pass from the delete-brigade? Pure hypocrisy.
- Because the United States is a country with a central federal government and has been acting as one single entity for a long time. However, the Arabs are culturally and geographically diverse, and non-Arab Muslims or Middle-easterners are often mistaken for Arabs and lumped together. "Arab dictatorships" imply the Middle-eastern dictatorships have all been Arab, or that the Arabs are more prone to have dictatorships, which is a highly biased point of view. This is not just controversial; this is highly inaccurate. --Euniana/Talk/Blog 18:33, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- However Arabs, as diverse as they may be, view themselves as a single entity (see Pan-Arab nationalism). Keep or merge with an article on Arab governments or politics. I don't think that political correctness should limit the discussion on Wikipedia. Arab dictatorships are a reality, everybody knows it, even the delete crowd.
- Because the United States is a country with a central federal government and has been acting as one single entity for a long time. However, the Arabs are culturally and geographically diverse, and non-Arab Muslims or Middle-easterners are often mistaken for Arabs and lumped together. "Arab dictatorships" imply the Middle-eastern dictatorships have all been Arab, or that the Arabs are more prone to have dictatorships, which is a highly biased point of view. This is not just controversial; this is highly inaccurate. --Euniana/Talk/Blog 18:33, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Only inbound is right-wing politics. Absolute monarchy provides evidence that while Saudia Arabia is, the other Gulf States are not absolute monarchies, as this contends. There's no way this adds any information that isn't covered elsewhere on Wikipedia; it's POV-based pastiche, stripped of context. Delete; expansion on the government of Arab states should go to Arab states. Samaritan 21:04, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Samaritan. No redirect. Meelar (talk) 21:19, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete POV fork. Firebug 00:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete WP:POINT Yuber 01:24, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I questioned this articles ability to become neutral a while back, it has failed to do so. Delete Sabine's Sunbird 02:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as is: POV, (probably deliberately) provocative title; contentious content. If the topic can be NPOV'd (which I beg to doubt IMHO), an article could be worth Wiki-ing, but I fear it would be likely to be flame-warred, simply because of the inherent heat generated by this subject. --Simon Cursitor 06:56, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - We'd probably see a Jewish dictatorship within 48 hours of letting this one stay... Peter Isotalo 23:38, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep but cut down on POV and adequately source. —Seselwa 00:19, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete POV Stancel 21:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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