Talk:Mauritian Creole

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'Roder'

hello, i speak the mauritian creole language and would like to say something which occured to me. the word roder actually comes from the french word for 'to prowl'and was used in creole to insult the slaves saying they would prowl around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.112.225 (talk) 07:27, 9 July 2004‎ (UTC)[reply]

Native name

What's the native name for the language? 4.250.51.102 04:59, 17 April 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just 'Creole', I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.128.5 (talk) 11:16, 9 June 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Creole; Kréol.. to differentiate it from other Creoles it is called Kreol Morisyen Mauritian Creole — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.107.117 (talk) 10:01, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deeper and rounded consonants

"the Creole does not have some of the more deeper and rounded consonants that the French does". Okay, what in the HELL does "deeper and rounded consonants" actually mean? Actually. Sounds like nonsense to me. Does anyone know specifically in which ways the consonants differ? Bryan 82.44.212.6 18:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is an example in the article. There is also many consonant sounds out there (see IPA for example), and it's not difficult to distinguish the consonant sounds of Creole to that of French. Dysprosia 02:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Our father - Nou Papa

Nou Papa ki dan le siel A more appropriate rendering of this would be Nou Papa ki dan lesyel, le siel looks like the french pronounciation which is not used for most creole speakers. Also, Papi is a more tender way of saying father but I don't think it's used in church hymns. Domsta333 13:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dialect

hmm, it isn't actually a dialect! it's a creole language and only that. Domsta333 08:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right.. I guess it's all about perspective... Rodrigues creole is supposed to be a dialect of Mauritian creole, right? But what if Rodrigues peeps decided they didn't like that and said, no we are a Creole, not a dialect.... Lol Mraymus (talk) 06:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese influence on Morisien?

That hardly seems likely as Mauritius was never inhabited permanently by the Portuguese - and after their discovery of the island and before the Dutch colonization no one lived there - making adoption of Portuguese words highly unlikely.

Where's the source for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snaporaznik (talk • contribs) 22:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's true, on Reunion creole too, as in Comorian language, but it's via french and african inflences. Vincnet (talk) 13:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number of speakers

The population of Mauritius is just over 1 million. 84% of this number can read and write, and their first language is Creole. Despite this, the vast majority of the illiterate population speak creole, and most Creole only. That's not including the thousands of Mauritians abroad, a significant number of whom continue to speak the language. How, then, is this figure counted? It's obviously wrong --Maurice45 (talk) 11:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar

Le passage Thus "ti" (from Fr. "étais") marks past tense, "pe" (from "après" as Québec french) marks progressive, "(f)in" (from Fr. "fin") marks completive or perfect, and "a" (from Fr. "va") marks future. Example: "li fin gayh" (he/she/it had), which can also be shortened to "li n gayh" and pronounced as if it were one word. me pose un problème. La distinction des temps qui est fait la me semble propre à l'anglais, les francophones n'utilisent pas le passé et passé composé de la même façon que les anglophones. J'aimerais savoir si le mauricien utilise la manière germanique ou la manière des francophones (voir même comme à la Réunion http://pedagogie2.ac-reunion.fr/clglasaline/disciplines/creole/gramcreole.htm). Vincnet (talk) 13:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphie

I am unsure what this means, and it does not seem to explained anywhere. Google also seems not able to illuminate matters. If someone could explain, I would be grateful. PhysicsBob (talk) 06:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It’s French for ‘spelling’. — Chameleon 06:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mutually intelligible?

I’m an interpreter. I was called into a hospital today for an appointment between a doctor and an old Mauritian gentleman. Quite surreally, he didn’t understand me at all. He didn’t show any flicker of comprehension. When I said ‘Est-ce que vous me comprenez ?’, he said, ‘What? My company?’. I asked in English what his first language was, and he claimed it was French. I asked whether it was some kind of creole, and he said yes. So now I’ve come to this article to see what the hell they speak in Mauritius.

I’ve had Mauritian clients before, but they just spoke standard French, so I was rather fazed. Those of you who speak this creole, are you surprised that the man did not understand a word of French? Is there really so little mutual intelligibility? How would one say ‘do you understand [standard] French’ in creole? — Chameleon 06:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Official Language of Mauritius

This pages states that English is the official language of Mauritius, while the Mauritius states that the nation has no official language (although English and French are the de facto languages of administration). What gives? Wwhhllrr (talk) 08:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Possession

There's nothing here I've seen about noun possession... Her house, my dog, their store.. Can someone explain and add something about noun possession? Also plural forms such as my dogs or her pony tails.... In Haitian Creole, which I speak, it works like this. Lakay li, lakay mwen, lakay mwen yo with the last being plural... Thanks! I'm trying to learn this lovely language as I am in the area sailing.. Mraymus (talk) 06:04, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis

The article describes the pidgin to creole hypothesis as a general consensus. This is not the case in creole linguistics. The 'uniformitarian' hypothesis associated with Salikoko Mufwene, for example, provides an alternative view that has a lot of supporters. On that view, there's no need for an exceptional form of origin through a pidgin and creoles do not constitute a linguistically coherent class of languages. Instead, what we call creoles are typically languages that start with a base in non-standard European languages and become further distant from those source languages through various iterations of informal second language acquisition. New speakers learn from second language speakers who then pass the language on to further new speakers. Whether this is correct or not is irrelevant. The fact is that there is no consensus in the field mnewmanqc (talk) 16:05, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]