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"Marianne"

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Do you guys think Marianne (1996 song) should be merged here? I'm not sure how much can be said about that song besides what's right there on that page. It's not a single, it's not notorious for any reason, etc. A few lines in here should do. Right? I'm going to go ahead and try to incorporate the pertinent info here. --Jacqui ★ 21:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey friends,
Someone emailed me with the impression that this page was my baby. :) Whether it is or not (and it's not), I am taking my exams right now and haven't the time for fix these errors either, let alone verify the Marianna stuff (though I am pretty sure that it's accurate from the Tori lore I have heard previously). But I will print the email in its entirety (with one exception) for the next person who comes along. Jacqui★ 14:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
From: Richard Handal <handal@r2d2.reverse.net>
To: [Jacqui M]
Date: Monday - May 8, 2006 4:34 AM
Subject: A couple Pele corrections
Hello, Jacqui,
I happened upon the Pele Wiki link and noticed a few errors. I was about

to correct the label and recording location info, but closed the preview screen before saving it. Then I noticed the errors concerning Marianne, and I guess since I used to live ten blocks from her and I know half a dozen or more people who went to junior high school with her, including Tori, I probably take that more personally than I do Tori's label info. (She was with Atlantic and eastwest for seven albums each, with eastwest starting with LE, with Atlantic as of YKTR, and first released on Epic in 2002--but only in the U.S.; who said Pele was on Epic? Do they not own a copy of the album and are thus unable to look at the label? Very curious. They also might have noticed the booklet credits which spoke about some recording in La., too, and whatever else it said. I don't have the CD in front of me right now so I'm not gonna check what it said, but the booklet notes are on Toriphoria, I believe: <yessaid.com>. I have other minor problems with the entry, but I've noticed nothing else that's a blatant factual error.)

Anyway, as for personal reasons I would rather not do this right now, I

was hoping you might edit the correction to the Marianne info. And as you seem to have put up most of the Marianne info, I thought I would write you as a courtesy.

First, Maryanne Curtis didn't spell her name as the title of the song is

spelled. I have no idea why that's spelled as it is; I never asked Tori. Whenever we've spoken it was always a rushed situation, and that was not a priority. I guess I need to offer evidence why I know that Maryanne Curtis went to Eastern Junior High School (now a middle school) with Tori rather than to high school with Tori at Richard Montgomery, so here it is: Tori's bio says she moved with her family in July 1978 to Rockville where she attended RMHS when her dad's parish was changed, and I know people who went to junior high and high school with Maryanne in Silver Spring where I'm from, and I've seen photos of Maryanne in the Blair yearbooks which were taken while Tori was at RMHS. I've also spoken with Tori about Maryanne, specifically pertaining to when she last saw Maryanne before moving to Rockville. So this is not a casual tidbit I picked up someplace. (I'm curious where your bit on Marianne came from, BTW. I don't mean to complain, I'm just wondering.)

So although Maryanne did indeed die while a high school student, Tori

didn't know her then--at all. [This bit censored as it's between "you and me" as Handal put it, but of course that means any evidence he offered couldn't be verified under Wikipedia's citation policy anyway -- J]

As to this murder story idea, I never even heard *of* that, and unless

someone in their basement somewhere thought it up at the time for five minutes, it's entirely erroneous. Everyone I asked who knew her always understood that she'd died of an overdose, and the suicide idea was nothing I ever found that anyone had heard, either. Tori explained to me why she had that in her own mind and wrote the song that way and spoke of Maryanne's demise in those terms, but that's more personal than I care to share right now. Jason may have a transcript up of Tori talking about Maryanne on the 11 Feb 1996 WHFS radio interview, so you may want to look that up and include the Magdalene bit, while you're on Toriphoria.

I apologize for writing out of the blue this way. It's always been

difficult for me to write about this. I hope you'll understand. If you wanna blow me off, I can live with that. But please know that I mean no disrespect.

http://r2d2.reverse.net/~handal/richard_posts.html
Much thanks.
Take care,
Richard Handal, H.G. Hopiakuta 00:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please, does anyone know on what pages the pig photographs might appear on?? Especially, though not limited to, billboard-style?? Hopiakuta 00:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can anyone provide legitimate sources to support the information included on the origin of the song "Marianne"? I'm completely re-working the Boys for Pele page and would like to provide resources for all information. Thanks. :) --Pisceandreams 14:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Skies

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This is not a Tori Amos song per se, she merely contributes the vocals. I will leave mention of this song in the Boys for Pele article, but will delete it from the B-Sides chart.--Pisceandreams 20:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also removed the chart performance for "Blue Skies". --Pisceandreams 21:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Boys for Pele Overhaul

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This article, much like all of the articles devoted to Tori Amos' albums, is in great need of re-working. Since this is my favorite album, I decided to start with this one. (And also because there is so much information to share about the inspiration, creation, and reaction to this album.) If anyone has anything noteworthy to add, please do so. Also, if anyone has any suggestions as to the breakdown of the article, share your thoughts. Thanks. :) --Pisceandreams 14:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed 'Marianne' info

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I've removed the following from the main BFP article. If anyone can provide a source for this, it can be replaced.

One song, "Marianne," details Amos' relationship with Marianne Curtis, a high school student from Montgomery County, Maryland, who died under questionable circumstances in the late 1970s. The death, which was actually due to an accidental drug overdose, was first suspected to be murder, and then later called a suicide.

--Pisceandreams (talk) 00:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work on the article. :) Partial sourcing for the above here, if you choose to incorporate it somewhere. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the compliment, and for the source. =) --Pisceandreams (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oom La Boomleigh

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There is no evidence that this song was recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions and every evidence that is is in fact just a live improv song. Amos performed the song one time only, at a live radio show. She has never made mention of it since in the press (unlike other unreleased songs like "To the Fair Motormaids of Japan", which she has definitively stated was an unreleased song from this era.) There is some evidence to support that it was NOT recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions (if it was ever recorded at all); Amos revealed to a fan at a Meet & Greet that the character "Mr. P", references in the song lyrics, refers to "Mr. Puppethead," a character Amos made popular on Amos' tour AFTER the release of "Pele". TheGoonSquad (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. Someone added this song a few months back and after unsuccessful research attempts, I couldn't find much info on it. If what you stated is true, then I agree that this shouldn't appear here. --Pisceandreams (talk) 14:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leslie - Bs?

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It seems to me that the author of the article meant to imply that the "box in which Tori and her Instruments were enclosed" and "the leslie cabinet" are the same thing, which is plain bullshit.

I'm pretty sure he misenterpreted something he's read, basically I'm quite sure things worked preetty mushc like this: a vocal booth in the church was created out of some plexiglass, with holes for 'slipping in' the piano and harpsichord keyboard, which were thus acoustically isolated from the vocal booth. The Leslie speaker was fed signal from the piano mikes and recorded separately, in another room - I read somewhere that it was recorded in the graveyard chapel.

Sorry for sloppy english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.193.5.35 (talk) 09:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Track descriptions

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Couldn´t there be some more descriptions of the individual tracks, or that would be considered "original research"?WikiPBia (talk) 16:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Artwork controversy

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Shouldn't there be mention of the controversy of one of the photos included with the CD - Tori Amos nursing a piglet?Jtyroler (talk) 08:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, absolutely. Unfortunately I'm not the one to do it, but if you could it would be a service as I felt it was one of the things that hacked off some male reviewers like Robert Christgau. Dr Birnam (talk) 21:10, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Article requirements:

Green tickY Start: reasonably complete infobox; lead section with overview of album; track listing; reference to at least primary personnel by name; Categorization by at least artist and year.
Green tickY C: all of start and (1) cover art in infobox; (2) at least one additional section of prose; (3) track lengths & song authors in tracklist; (4) a personnel section including all musicians.
Green tickY B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia.

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Chas and Dave

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I've loved Tori Amos since the early 90s, but owned only the first three albums. Never knew about the B-sides and all the lore around this album but - please - why no commentary on her covering CHAS & DAVE songs! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Birnam (talk • contribs) 21:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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