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Is there a word for the books and authors which are merely mentioned in a book?

In academia and textual studies is there a word for this?: "All the books and authors which happen to be mentioned in a particular book, but which aren't really 'citations.'"

For example, William James and Carl Jung (obliquely) are mentioned, along with James' book "The Varieties of Religious Experience", in the "Big Book" of Alcoholics Anonymous. But they aren't really "citations" or "references." It's not like there's a footnote: "See William James page such-and-such.". They're just mentioned as part of the story. Carl Jung isn't even named - he's just referred to obliquely. But is there a word for all the texts and authors which happen to be mentioned in a written work?

Other examples: All the books and authors which are mentioned in the Complete Works of, say, Goethe or Tolstoy. Or all the books mentioned within the actual text of the Bible: https://carm.org/other-books-mentioned-in-the-bible

I'm trying to find a word for this. It doesn't just include any "person" mentioned - I'm only counting mentions of people who are "authors"--who have written something.

I'm tempted to invent a word if no such word exists: "referentia." Traversetravis (talk) 02:11, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Traversetravis: Try asking at a WP:RD? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:55, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

thanks!Traversetravis (talk) 20:37, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong here?

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Wimbledon32 (talk) 07:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Lying for the Admiralty, book by Margaret Cameron-Ash (2018)
^ Cameron-Ash, Margaret-Ash (31 March 2018). Lying for the Admiralty. Rosenberg. {{cite book}}: |website= ignored (help); External link in |website= (help)

Is this a test? Clarinetguy097 (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Split citation styles

That big subsection, mostly a list, should probably be split into its own subarticle. Thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:54, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed as it's a sizable portion and citation style is notable. fgnievinski (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We should have a citation for video game

The reason I say this because it can get annoying trying to cite for video games, I made a article on Papyrus (Character) and submitted in hopes of it becoming an official Wikipedia page but was rejected because of the sources not being “Reilable” Sonic Punch Revival (talk) 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I meant video games by the way Sonic Punch Revival (talk) 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As it says at the top of this page, "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Citation article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." Nardog (talk) 11:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Practical research

Impact of adding the right ingredients in Bread and Pastry 175.176.69.163 (talk) 14:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Section editing not supported"

Never seen this before. How, then, to edit these areas? Primergrey (talk) 02:03, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Lying for the Admiralty, book by Margaret Cameron-Ash (2018)

[2] Cameron-Ash, Margaret-Ash (31 March 2018). Lying for the Admiralty. Rosenberg. {{cite book}}: |website= ignored (help); External link in |website= (help)

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