User talk:Pizza Puzzle/ban

I found a link to this on John Owens' most wanted list. Well, I thought that I'd consummate it. 172 10:15 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Well, since there is a page here now, have to find something to discuss on it, how about discussing making Pizza Puzzle an admin, so he doesn't have any reason to complain about protected pages? כסיף Cyp 10:24 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Click here for sufficient demonstration that PP=Adam. Evercat put an incredible amount of work into proving the Lir/PP connection, linking him to his innumerable past identities, such as Adam, Bridget, Lir, Vera Cruz, Susan Mason, and Dietary Fiber. Due to Evercat's work, I moved PP from suspected of being Lir to known to being Lir on John Owen's most wanted list 172 17:03, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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I favor his banning. Let me explain this in terms of the Lir cycle. Adam's history of contributions follows a cyclical pattern. He gets banned. Then, he establishes a new user name. He starts off as a constructive, extremely active contributor editing hundreds of articles. Then he starts misbehaving. His bad behavior worsens. He then focuses all his efforts on a personal crusade. He finally gets banned. And so the cycle continues. I think that banning him sooner rather than later will usher in the constructive part of the cycle. Let him start afresh with a new identity. When he gets a new user name, hiding his identity gives him an incentive to behave, which he hasn't been doing lately. In fact, I suspect that PP already has a new user name (I won't state it since I'm uncertain) who is well behaved. If that's correct, Lir is already laying the groundwork for an eventual banning of the PP incarnation by establishing a less tarnished persona. In effect, banning Lir whips him in to shape, albeit temporarily. 172 17:03, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)